Here at the end of all things
Jan. 11th, 2011 08:55 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
justfornow
So I have a random, nitpicking question for everyone. In the Deathly Hallows: Part 1, after Ron destroys the locket, he says (and this is a screenshot taken directly from my copy of the script):
I think I might be forgetting something, but I thought for sure they knew that there were seven Horcruxes. Because when Tom Riddle goes to talk to Slughorn in Slughorn's memory, he specifically says seven pieces of his soul. And, unless I'm wrong, the locket was only the third Horcrux they destroyed, leaving Hufflepuff's Goblet, Ravenclaw's Diadem, Nagini, and Harry. So they really have "only four to go," right? Unless the movies are going to chop off one of the Horcruxes? Or I suppose it could just be a fluke. XD Or I'm just dumb and totally missed something, in which case, please feel free to ignore this.
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Date: 2011-01-12 04:43 am (UTC)And, yeah, Harry's a Horcrux, but they don't know that yet. They think there's just the three -- cup, diadem, and snake -- and the bit in Voldemort's body. :x
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Date: 2011-01-12 05:19 am (UTC)And, yeah, I know that they don't know Harry is a Horcrux, but they still know that there is supposed to be seven, right? The math just doesn't add up. Unless they think that Voldemort himself is the seventh Horcrux? That would make sense, I guess. HArry would be the accident eighth part then?
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Date: 2011-01-12 05:32 am (UTC)So I was really really hoping that coming online would make that better and I saw that I had no messages and I was like, :'( omg I hate my life, no one loves me at all, lol, what the fuck, I am so stupid. But then I checked my f-list because I obvs still needed distractions and then I read a big post about movies and other ships and incest and incest can go die in a fire right now cause it totally broke my heart, and movies suck because people fucking suck and I wouldn't have known that so much if movies never existed but they do and coincidentally, I watch them. And then I scrolled down and saw Frodo and Sam. AND THE EPIC FOREHEAD KISS THAT MAKES ME WANT TO SHOOT MYSELF BECAUSE WHY IN THE ABSOLUTE FUCK IS FRODO LEAVING SAM OMG WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE SO IN LOVE STOP LEAVING HIM, BUT at the moment I saw it I wasn't really thinking that, I was just thinking about the so in love part and the melting my heart part and then I read it was for me and thank you so so much Danny. But I'm just gonna cry some more now lol, omg.
UGH WTF WHY DON'T I HAVE AN LOTR ICON YET FUCK.
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Date: 2011-01-12 06:05 am (UTC)I am going to come right out and say that I bawled the first time I watched Juno. Which was, of course, kind of embarrassing because I was with a friend (but that friend was Brandon and he knows me, so it could have been worse). Even though I love Bleek because of his love and his amazingness, I totally love and really ship Mark/Juno because I am thoroughly incapable of shipping a canon ship. It is impossible for me, I swear to God and I hate that but whatever. Mark/Juno. He is kind of a bastard. But. Ugh. I don't even know. And Bleek. God.
In my mind, at the end, when Frodo is kissing Sam on the forehead, he isn't really saying goodbye. I think he recognizes that even though they are in love, Sam needs to do the living thing and he needs to raise a family and have a girl and all that. What he's really saying with that goodbye kiss is, "Go, I'll wait for you." Because even though his leaving is almost like death, it isn't really. He's not dying, he's just going away. And even though they don;t get their happily ever after right there, they will get it eventually. And they'll grow old together and eventually they'll die together and it will be a romance for the ages.
Also, remember when I told you that I thought Frodo and Sam were soulmates, but I couldn't imagine them having sex? I was on crack at the time or something. Because I used to read them all the time and think about them all the time and fantasize about them having their happily ever after and I think that they were possibly my first real ship and fuck.
So yes. That's how LOTR really ended in my head. And this? Is my only LOTR icon, so don't feel so bad.
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Date: 2011-01-12 06:20 am (UTC)Um, that's so perfect I could cry until I threw up. As awful and crude as that sounds, it's true. That makes my stomach so... wow. WOW. I DON'T KNOW. JUST WOW. What. is. my life. You're great for that. That's perfect. I hate fiction so much for not being real. Oh my god.
MARK AND JUNO ARE PERFECT FOR EACH OTHER WHAT WAS HER PROBLEM AT THE END, I DON'T EVEN GET IT. They're dancing right. Like she totally starts this entire thing. Calling just to say hi and eating up everything he says and coming over to hang out with him and talking about him to her best friends. SHE STARTS IT. EVEN THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL DANCING PART. And Mark just goes with it because she's beautiful and fun, and she fucking gets him. So he dances with her, and she rests her head on his shoulder because she's that obscenely comfortable with him, and he rests his chin on her head and she doesn't get DOESN'T GET how any of this is inappropriate, not even a little bit, she likes him SO MUCH that she doesn't understand. So he's honest with her and practically INVITING HER to come live with him when she graduates, to be WITH HIM because he sees everything they are and could be, in a way that doesn't have to be the strictest set of lines, just something that flows and goes easily because they fit together like that, but they don't have to be perfect and not everything has to be planned out and structured. And she just. I get it. I get why she freaks out. She loves that baby that's inside of her, even though she didn't want to, and a threat to that baby, even if it's you know, the mere destruction of it's family life, hurts her, and how could MARK do that to her, and to the baby, the baby she thought he was going to love, even more than she loved. So I get it. But... that should not have been the end of it. How could she not know how she was treating him. "How do you think of me?" he asks, and she just. WHAT. HOW DO YOU NOT REALIZE THAT HE THOUGHT YOU WERE LIKE TOTALLY IN LOVE WITH HIM, JUNO.
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Date: 2011-01-12 06:57 am (UTC)And yes. ALL of that. Like, that's exactly what I was feeling when I watched it. God. It;s so... I don't even know.
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Date: 2011-01-12 07:06 am (UTC)Dumbledore always knew that Harry was the seventh horcrux, but to Harry (and Ron and Hermione), Voldemort was the seventh and last piece, being that he's the last fragment of the soul. Even Voldemort didn't know Harry had a piece of his own soul in him (he guessed at it briefly in OoTP I feel, when he possesses Harry's heart so easily but that's just me assuming). /condensed version
Also: Frodo and Sam are soulmates, but I never shipped them romantically. Does that make sense?
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Date: 2011-01-12 07:12 am (UTC)Yes. That totally makes sense. Because, at least for awhile, that's how I was with them, too. It's really hard to not think they're soulmates, even if it's only friend soulmates and not romantic soulmates.
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Date: 2011-01-12 07:22 am (UTC)Lmao, I can go for hours and hours about HP but rl-friends shun me for it so I'm usually quiet, but I have so many ~feelings about this. I was having an epic conversation with some random person on tumblr earlier on how JKR failed Ron as a character and how that upset me. Lol what is my life.
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Date: 2011-01-12 07:34 am (UTC)Yeah. Most of my rl-friends make fun of me for my HP addiction. My one really close friend teases me about it all the time. I guess that is one of the beauties of the internet, yes?
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Date: 2011-01-12 07:53 am (UTC)Um, I say we have a rewatch together, y/n?
Eh, I've run into one superfan like myself, but they were all about R/Hr so that didn't go far once I revealed that I wasn't a shipper. Lol. Woe is me. Thank god for the internet <3
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Date: 2011-01-12 08:03 am (UTC)Let's do it! That would be fun.
Oh, that sucks so much. Ugh. You can only expect so much out of people. Lol
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Date: 2011-01-12 08:26 am (UTC)That's how I feel too, and I really like Ginny in fanon because canon doesn't ever bring up her own inner battles -- she was possessed by fucking Voldemort at the age of 11. That has to cause major stability issues. It was NEVER brought on again (oh wait, they mentioned it briefly in POA, after the dementor incident). I know the story is told from Harry's POV but it's just something that bothers me so much because without thinking about that canon Ginny is SO annoying. Harry and her fought two very different wars, and in the end they were not right for each other if healing was meant to take place. I've recently started shipping Neville/Ginny for that very reason: he can heal her (and there's plenty of canon textual support).
WE ARE DOING IT.
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Date: 2011-01-12 08:34 am (UTC)Neville/Ginny! That, again, is a ship I never really caught onto the first couple times I read through the books. Now as I'm reading them again after a couple years, that one really sticks out at me. It works in my mind. There's really nothing for Harry and Ginny to bond over. They didn't go through the same shit. And yeah, I love you for all of the above. :)
WHEN?
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Date: 2011-01-12 08:42 am (UTC)WE'RE DOING THIS MARATHON... STARTING THIS WEEKEND? Y/N?
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Date: 2011-01-12 08:44 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-12 08:06 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-12 08:21 am (UTC)Here are a few, though, that I've read and do really love. I don't know if you'll like any of these, and it's not much of a selection as they're just a few I have open at the moment, but maybe it'll tide you over?
The Potter Curse: Severus Snape has been cursed, causing him do the most unimaginably sordid things. Potter's the reason for it, he's sure. But then everything in Severus's life seems to begin and end with Potter.
The Release: Severus Snape hated Harry Potter. He was also, unfortunately, married to him.
Ambiguous Morality: On his twenty first birthday Harry discovers he owes a debt that must be repaid. He pays it, with mixed results. (Mpreg, just so you know, but it's tasteful.)
A Convenient Marriage: Sometimes a marriage of convenience can become so much more... (Again, mpreg but it's mild and not the point of the story.)
At The Heart Of All Things: After being forced to bond five years ago, domestic tranquility does not reign in the Potter-Snape household. Severus thinks he's found something better, only to realize everything he's lost. He decides to prove himself to Harry one day at a time. (Harry has a miscarriage in this, but as the story is in Severus' point-of-view, we don't see it until afterward. Besides that, there is no mpreg. For whatever reason, this has always been one of my favorite Snarry fics. It's just so... It hurts, but it hurts in all the right ways at the end.)
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Date: 2011-01-12 08:26 am (UTC)Sacrifice: Harry feels that the only way to keep Snape from serving an undeserving stint in Azkaban is to go through a bonding ceremony with him, thus proving that if Harry Potter has enough faith in Severus Snape to marry him, the man can't be all that bad. How long will it take before the ruse turns real?
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Date: 2011-01-12 08:43 am (UTC)Oh lol, I hate the way I just ctrl+d ed everything before Delicious and now it's just all over the place and I can't remember anything. I've shown you Beech Hall before, I believe, and of course the garden one. But idk if I ever found my absolute absolute favorite one for you and idk if this is it or not! IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE IT, BUT THEN I HAD READ IT IN 2007 SO WHAT DO I KNOW.
The 'To Have' series:
To have and to hold: http://archive.skyehawke.com/story.php?no=4945&chapter=1&font=&size=
To have not: http://archive.skyehawke.com/story.php?no=9104&chapter=1&font=&size=
To have and to keep: http://archive.skyehawke.com/story.php?no=13445
And okay it's not that one, but that one is very good.
Mine deals with Hawaii part of the time, and a lot of bonding discussions and everything is beautiful and perfect for a long time, and then Harry and Severus fight which, let's face it, is never good because they're both ridiculously powerful and completely stubborn, so it breaks and then it gets a little better, but there's lots of crying because Voldemort gets to them at times. But it's also really beautiful and involves a secret relationship between Poppy and Dumbledore (lol, obvs written prior to certain announcements). Oh jesus. IDK. I'M PROBABLY JUST THROWING ALL OF MY FAVORITES INTO A MELTING POT RN AND THAT'S WHY I CAN'T FIND IT. God damn, you fandom, and all the fics you've provided with no way to properly organize them.
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Date: 2011-01-12 08:53 am (UTC)That "To Have" serious sounds really amazing. I'll have to get to that one soon after I close out the rest of my four Snarry tabs. (That's not that much but two of them are 100k words or more, so, ugh.)
If that is an actual fic and you actually find it, I will probably die of happiness just so you know.
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Date: 2011-01-12 04:09 pm (UTC)Um Harry moves into this really lovely old mansion with a couple of friends and there's a shed or something, that won't open, and anyway, Severus gets hurt in the last battle, and Harry brings him to the house in order to help him get well. All the while Lucius is being kind of a twat. So they are trying to keep protected and just get along. and Harry is like ACHINGLY in love with Severus. There are love triangles. It's all so wonderful.
... The Sensible Garden: http://www.snarryfest.com/The_Sensible_Garden.htm
It is one of the absolute best Harry/Severus fics you will ever read. You will cry, and you will feel for characters you didn't imagine you would, and you will possibly plan to move to Ireland someday where you can fix up a little stone house with wooden floors, but lots of land so you can build a magnificent green house and put all kinds of exotic and non-exotic plants even though you've hardly gardened since you were five. But maybe not.
The Hawaii one definitely exists. I know this because I can't find it because the universe is gravely unkind.
My second favorite is less Harry/Severus, more Severus and an OC Uncle of a canon character, and the way Severus begins to heal and totally horrible relationships like Harry/Neville and Draco/Neville, but also really beautiful relationships that become your absolute OTP and you just wouldn't really think it but it works so perfectly you want to cry because it's the only fic in the world with that pairing like Fred/Remus and George/Sirius.
And like one of my other favorite fics I lost with the pairing Draco/Oliver on the side of Harry/Severus and Harry's son by Cho Chang and how they work as a family for a while, but the last chapter written with them together together is at a Quidditch game and they have a fight and then the actual last written chapter is at a wedding ceremony they were both invited to and they're about to take and make up AND THEN THE AUTHOR DID NOT FINISH but it was still so amazing.
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Date: 2011-01-12 06:27 pm (UTC)That last one sounds kind of perfect.
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Date: 2011-01-12 04:53 pm (UTC)That is a great question about DH, I didn't notice it until you mentioned it. hmm good question...I'll guess we'll have to see part 2 to see if they cut one or if Ron was wrong on the number.
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Date: 2011-01-12 06:30 pm (UTC)Yeah. Hmmm....